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talked in the acceptance speech about getting-- getting us off of foreign oil. how? >> you know what that means-- >> that's what he means. >> and i would predict this, you will see floated during this term, a carbon tax idea. but something like immigration reform i think he could be serious. >> and you think that republicans-- kim, would republicans be willing to work with the president on immigration reform? there's a lot of bad feeling from the first term on that because of the way the president attacked the arizona law and tried to make republicans looks like they were anti-hispanic. >> that's right. and i think some of this will depend on what lessons the republicans take out of this election, demographically as we were talking about, whether there isn't some self-interest to them and actually taking a lead on immigration reform, although there's a lot of-- what we did on tuesday, status quo to government, divided government. i don't see a huge amount of willingness on either side other than the the immediate things they will have to deal with like the fiscal cliff, to work on an
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